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    Thanks again for all the passion on this issue – we hear you and we’ll get someone on the team to dig in to the issue. I’ve seen a few related sub-issues while scanning over the comment section for this one, so we may reach out to a few of you for clarifications. Thanks again for all the votes, and keep them coming for the issues you care about!

    John, Excel

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    sad to say Shift-click does NOT create a separate undo stack, at least with latest rev of Excel 2013 (15.0.5249.1000) our company forces on us:

    1) make important "Excel1" doc with enough a few pages of content and save to desktop
    2) make another simple throw away "Excel2" doc save to desktop
    3) close all instances of Excel, and i may even choose to reboot Windows 10 "just to be sure" the undo cache really in reality actually does in real life get udderly purged out of actual existence..
    4) Shift-click open "Excel1" (or not shift-click this first doc, don't matter)
    5) make some super important change to the doc that will result in you being fired if you lose it.
    6) check to see if it shows up in the undo stack (yes it does)
    7) Shift-click "Excel2"
    >> Wow! the undo for something entirely unrelated to the document i'm opening appears in the undo stack..

    8) check it out, if i undo it, nothing happens to the new document im in! so im safe! yay!
    9) I'm confused by this, i'd better close my documents saving both of them just to be sure i dont lose any of my work! okey dokey, im done, feeling pretty good about this already!! later that night: uhh, i cant sleep just as im drifting off i keep having dreams Excel deleted my work, but that must be nonesense, excel would never do such a thing! ill go check it so that i can get a good nights rest...

    10) reopen both docs, knowing excel wouldn't ever smite my files with such evil deeds!
    >> nooooo! i lost my work in "Excel1" no!!!! ahhhhghh!

    11) im so surprised by this awful bug i had to go to some microsoft excel uservoice page to warn microsoft their program has this big terrible nasty bug that might result in people losing valuable work and getting fired...
    >> oh nooo! everytone else has the same problem for years and years and years with nil/zero/null light at the end of the tunnel.. were all doomed, doooooooooooooomed!!

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    aye, and it wouldn't even be that bad if the undo stacks stayed merged... provided it was improved maybe just a tiny little bit so as not to be such the total fiasco as it currently stands.
    i mean, you have several speradsheets open simply updating stuff like normal humans do, but then when we find something we change our mind about, you want to simply go UNDO that. well, how to find it? MS WreckCell is no help at all here, its worse than finding a needle in a haystack since the only way to find the needle is to essentially BURN DOWN the whole friggin haystack.
    The undo entries are so minimalistic as to be useless as mental indices (examples: 'paste', 'typing excelsucks in F454', 'bold', 'show/hide detail', 'zoom' ..yes those last two ones being so critically important to track those and fill up the undo buffer).
    Now if MS could simply prepend the sheet/file name to these it would help us find exactly what the undo is referring to in order to decide if undoing something would destroy other work we have completed in the interim, but i guess that would perhaps just add more fuel to the fire that we actually need a NON-LINEAR merged undo palette to make a merged undo stack to be useable at all. So apparently they wont even bother to fix the easy stuff around this issue.

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    I'm always going about tasks and losing so much work this way, user experience is so backwards its a nightmare to work with. To prevent data loss, i routinely close all documents except the one im actually editing in order to make it useable.

    There should simple be an option in prefs to open the document in single instance or a separate instance, or ithe grouped stack should only be invoked for documents that already have linked data, if its more suitable the user could simply be prompted for how to proceed when a linked document is opened.

    Even if there are too many complications to fix the main problem, simply adding the full path to depict the document/sheet/operation of each undo item in the listing will help us figure out whats actually going on, the way it is now is just a stew of ambiguous entries like "typing blah blah in H1", "clear" or "entry". With the shared document scenario being the default condition, these sparse entries lose their context precisely when the second document is opened.

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    Thanks everyone for all of the passion about this suggestion! The number of votes has increased greatly in the last couple months and we’re taking notice! We’ve got a bunch of other Excel endpoints behaving this way already and we’re evaluating getting it done in the Windows versions sooner based on the number of votes it gets – so keep the votes coming!

    Eric Patterson (Program Manager – MSFT)

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    yeah!
    and be sure to add your uservoice about that absolute Excel undo stack FIASCO that irritates me to no end, yes add your comment to that particular complaint section, because there's a tracker here for just about every MS Excel conniption or compromise and even though it seems like the only ones other than the afflicted that read these pages are bots, post in desperation because its all we've got (don't even get me started on SharePoint):

    https://excel.uservoice.com/forums/304921-excel-for-windows-desktop-application/suggestions/9769824-have-excel-scroll-better-when-there-are-large-cell

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    MS products are always a byzantine mess of comittee-driven feature requests, and more complexity means more opportunity for cross-contamination of imperfect implementation symptoms

    This scrolling issue is caused by the functions of Windows not Excel itself, just go try LibreOffice and youll find the same issue lurking because it uses the same OS hooks to do its scrolling.. unfortuantely it seems MS managment is unable to find the unity needed in order to address such cross-contamination issues.
    MS should install a folder on the Windows desktop called "My Migranes" that holds icons to all their products so user will know what they are signing up for.

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    Excel casts a pox on all...

    Wring around the rosey, Pocket full explosey, trashes, crashes, we cant scroll down!

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    cell design defect in functional architecture hijacks cellular machinery effectively quarantining useful functionality leading to user volatility and subsequent overthrow of evil empire

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    its the Windows OS that has this bug and Excel (and Google Sheets, LibreOffice, etc..) are leveraging that compromised functionality for which this bug (as well as so many other frustrating bugs) has never been addressed. So it apparently requires a Windows OS update, which in reality will probably never happen regardles of the 'passion' unleashed in this Excel thread that the WinOS team will never see. Therefore if we can kick ourselves and our enterprises out of the unholy grip of WinHell and move on to some other modern OS like Mac, Linux, basically anything else... Excel and all works just fine.

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    yeah! so snap to it Microsoft! ..er um NO! i mean DON'T snap to it that is...

    oh snap! stop that snapping snapsheet snapping or were all gonna snap, we're all gonna snap up some other snappy new kind of snap-free software that isn't quite so snap-happy!

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    Nope, not even Libre Office can save us!
    You should quit, you should quit MS Windows, you should..I should know...I'm a medical doctor!

    Many have tried.. they tried and.. they failed? ..No!!! they tried and DIED!!!
    Fortunately for MS *****, the same MS Windows issue that graces Excel with its horrific purgatory of permanent pain also raises its ghastly horns in any spreadsheet applications that use the Windows OS to draw their pages, especially LibreOffice!! heh heh har ha haa Ha HaA HAAAA HAAAAHH!!!

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    installed LibreOffice 6.1 on my Win10 to see if that suffers too:
    "Yep" it does occur and for cornsake pretty much exactly the same: scrolling snaps to cells both vertically/horizontally making the full contents of large cells inaccessible, and there is no preferences setting to address it.
    This seems to suggest this is a Windows 'feature' not even Microsoft is able to fix nor even implement a work around for.

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    #1): amen, there is commradery in ****!
    #2): Noooooooooo! why is Enter key hard-mapped to the down arrow when excel could just use the friggin' arrow keys for what they're meant for? Once i finally train my fingers to do reliably issue simple carriage returns the 'elite Excel way' i have to multitask back into the real world to use 'normal' apps again, which means i end up by motor-memory ham-******* everything, issuing god-knows-what commands on whatever may be selected! M$ please have mercy!
    #3): sounds like a spellcheck add-in/plugin like that must already exist, i never bothered to check but it would be useful indeed.
    #4): agree formula limitations and weird defaults can be irritating, although much works quite well, it seems every other time i try to do something that should be straightforward i need to go about it with some roundabout workaround.

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    As this unrelenting migrane at last wears us down, doomed workers as unwilling supplicants to MS Windows naively cried out hoping for a glimpse of salvation, to break though the din of automated chatbot responders, but our solace was to be only the cries of fellow sufferers damned to the eternity of endless hemorrhoidal scrolling nightmare...

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    i have a fever! and the only prescription is: commented  · 

    maybe get a fix in midcentury?

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