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    Hi All, We apologize for being slow to engage on this thread. We are listening to your feedback and we really do care. After reading the comments here as well as the feedback sent from within Excel, we have decided to remove the lock icon from Excel on Windows for the timebeing. Since it’s not new to the other platforms (web, Mac and mobile) and we haven’t had similar feedback about it there, we won’t change those for now. We’ll consider how best to get consistency across the desktop, web, and mobile apps, and we’ll share updates if we have any additional next steps.

    Since the lock icon was added recently, we can turn it off by using a configuration in O365, so you should notice that the change soon, without having to install an update. Just make sure to restart Excel.

    Thanks for all your feedback.

    Steve [Microsoft Excel]

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    Kevin commented  · 

    That took quite a while, but thank you.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Maybe now that they lost Tik Tok they might make time for this. I would not hold my breath. The absolutely, and singularly lame codies at Microsoft still have not been able to fix the "account problem" issue after many, many years. The link below describes it well, however there are so many nuanced versions of Win10 that this does not work anyway.

    https://www.bruceb.com/2019/09/how-to-get-rid-of-the-microsoft-account-problem-notification/

    In terms of customer response, Microsoft , you are as a group are an unmitigated joke, a farce. I emailed Satya from the email provided lower in the string, of course no hint of anything. Whatever, at this point for me. Best to all who still hold out hope. I will continue to tolerate MS for my OS for the moment, simply because I do not have time to re-invent the wheel. But my patience is wearing very very thin. Good luck to all who need this fix most. I think the MS techs actually do not likely not have the skillset to fix this problem that they created.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    tik tok tik tok Microsoft.

    You really should have the decency to respond on this...........

    Very rude at this point.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    The underline would likely be a better solution. Then you don't have to worry about color schemes vs red and orange. Split the underline in half for partial lock, or coarse dotted. Full width line beneath for full lock. Equal line weight in both cases,just enough to be easy to see. Color could match the text color so it would be visible in the existing tab field, and not cause confusion. Or be an automatically generated offset color, but that might get confusing as well. I think match the text color. Then it is just a thin shape-icon below the tab text. and of course toggle off at user choice.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Hello all. Just checking back on this thread. I am still the friend of and part of the Excel user group, despite what I am about to write to the coders here. At this point it is pretty clear to me that the Microsoft Excel coding group does not give a rats about what any user wants or needs, nor what actually is logical , works, and makes sense in the real world. All they care about is what they happen to think is an excellent idea , and whatever agenda they have at the moment. Microsoft, this is very directly from me to you. You are becoming a pain ********** and we long-time users barely have the patience to tolerate you at this point. A bunch of entitled young coders with no clue about anything works in the real world. Even as far as brain-dead from the perspective of any thinking person. Yes I repeat brain-dead. You have my email if you even have any cojones to actually discuss it, otherwise you as always will sit back and do nothing on real issues, and implement the mostly useless ones that you happen to want with no user control. Again, I reiterate, you are a bunch of highly-flawed and mostly useless, self-serving and essentially unimportant , obscure coders who at this point no-one really cares about. This is from me, not the group. I am done discussing anything with Microsoft as it EVERY SINGLE TIME I HAVE ENGAGED MICROSOFT , proven to be a 100% blatant waste of my valuable time. Your clients are way too nice to you. You need to remember that they pay your wages at the end of the day, and you essentially work for the user group. Not the other way around, despite how you act out. Yes this is very intentionally vitriolic, but I need to speak my mind, and I put money not even one of you will respond. The whole "Microsoft community" thing is a joke. And you know it. I am done wasting my time even looking at this. Out.

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    Microsoft needs to give the user control over this, and right away, please This is a bad idea as issued, with no way of togglling or turning it off. A few users like it, however the vast majority do not, and therefor the fix needs to be issued ASAP to be able to turn the feature off. Thank you.

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    Hi – due to concerns expressed by people who did not like the way the lock symbol was added to protected sheets, we will stop showing it on sheet tabs in Excel for Windows for the time-being. We may bring it back in the future in some other fashion.

    If you’d like to see a lock symbol or some other visual indicator when a sheet is protected, please add your vote and comment here.

    Here’s the related discussion – https://excel.uservoice.com/forums/304921/suggestions/40858108

    Many Thanks – Steve [Microsoft Excel]

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Thanks for checking.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Late June or first week in July. My base version shows as the 2006 kernel which looks like it underlies my 2016.

    Some more input from users below to compare.

    https://excel.uservoice.com/forums/304921-excel-for-windows-desktop-application/suggestions/40858108-remove-the-lock-symbols-from-the-tabs-of-protected

    This next post likes it- others not. I added a comment.

    https://excel.uservoice.com/forums/304921-excel-for-windows-desktop-application/suggestions/33239572-add-a-lock-symbol-on-the-protected-sheet-tab

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Rich, I did not mean to get into it with you on this. Usually not my thing. Basically cranky about the locks. I just want the issue fixed, along with a lot of other users. I think it will get done.

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    Microsoft needs to give the user control over this, and right away, please This is a bad idea as issued, with no way of togglling or turning it off. A few users like it, however the vast majority do not, and therefor the fix needs to be issued ASAP to be able to turn the feature off.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Rich. At the risk of pointing out the painfully obvious for you to grasp, your request in October appears to have contributed to a general release by MS code-writers of a feature in a standard Excel update which has negatively impacted many other users, which they cannot turn off just yet on their iterations, but which you do not apparently even have available to you on your iteration AFTER your request. I call that poetic, and a pretty clear statement of how Microsoft has handled this suggestion. I am done discussing, and have now lost interest. Hopefully someone from Microsoft code team will issue an update allowing and telling those who wish to, how to turn off the feature, and perhaps even go as far as to tell you how to access it yourself. Turns out no-one's experience (Including with Microsoft) is universal. Imagine that. Take care and all the best.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    Not sure where your head is stuck, nor why you would think I or any other 2016 user had anything to do with padlocks that we don't want appearing . Do your homework with MS if you have contact. I do not. I am not here to debate the facts, simply share them accurately. Your screen shots won't help anyone who raised the issue at this end, and who actually do have the unwanted issue. Microsoft issuing a fix will help. That is all I really care about. So if someone from Microsoft could please respond on this, I would appreciate it.Then you and I will not need to communicate.

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    Rich I believe that the posters all use desktop-only Excel ( at least I do) and have never used the online version. The comment about the lock icon already existing in the online version is irrelevant in this particular conversation, except that it appears that your request was in fact specific to standard version, otherwise why make the comment? The padlocks did in fact show up in standard Excel about the time of the first posts on this thread , and as I stated, In my case on 2 machines first, then on another machine( this one). The issue is that this change has no visible or findable way to revert to the old icon view, without the lock image. This machine is a very new 2020 Win10 machine, and all 3 are within the past 2 years. I am using Excel 2016 because it is the last version available that the user has had some control over up until now, as opposed to Office 365. I think it is pretty clear that all the posting users simply need a way of turning off the newly inserted lock icon feature. So not sure why you would not be experiencing this occurrence on your desktop iteration, especially after specifically requesting in. Perhaps just not yet. As an aside, I know many many MS users who have complained about the fact that Win10 generates ongoing false "account problem" notifications. On a daily basis. Usually a "password issue". I simply click past that and it is not an issue. Outlook works fine on at least one box, and I do not use it as my main email client anyway, so this does not cause me a problem. My point with this last comment is that Microsoft is largely incompetent regarding certain software function and detail, and service to customer in many areas, as I have requested and even called in to find a fix for the supposed password problem, finally giving up and going to the click-past solution. I have spoken to a half-dozen business users who have the exact same issue , also on fully legal and paid up versions Microsoft software. So, the posting group does in fact have a valid point, and we will see where this lands and how long a fix takes to be issued (if it even will be) At some point, when I can do what I need to on another piece of non-MS software, I will vote with my feet. At the moment I am just adequately functional although annoyed with Excel and MS both. When it eats too much time, I am gone.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    I have added a submission to Microsoft from the Feedback window within Excel itself on one of my machines, and encourage all users who need control over this new and annoying feature to keep submitting additional input to Microsoft. I also DO expect a response from Microsoft from both my personal submissions, and also the total contents of all submissions on this web page, which I have not had yet. I recommend that whomever at Microsoft runs this page do their job and respond on this important issue, to at least update all commenting Excel users on the coming fix for this newly created problem. We will see how the response goes, or if higher-level input is required. It certainly will be forthcoming, forcefully and away from this page. Thank you in advance for your help with fixing this new user problem which the coders have created by their decisions and actions, which unfortunately is affecting all of us daily users of this Microsoft product. I have spoken with other local users and they also say the same thing.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    And for the sake of your business itself.

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    MICROSOFT CODIES. We evidently REALLY do not like the feature. We need control over it. I have spent a lot of dollars on your software over the years, as I am sure have many of the folks below . You need to listen to us act on this, not just one person's request for the feature. Please actually listen and fix the problem you have now created. We are getting sick of the way you do these updates out of the blue with no user control. This is a particularly bad one. As are the "new" extra over stamps causing new clutter on the actual main Excel file icons. Who asked for those or needs them? Everyone is being way too nice about this. Fix the lock image problem please. Do your real job. This is about multiple users, not individuals. Thank you. I am being polite here. Regardless of the email I am using with Microsoft, I have been using Excel and paying for it since mid-1980s. So please listen to us about this serious problem which you have created with no user solution shown. Please fix it right away, for your paying customers' sake. Thank you.

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    Kevin commented  · 

    This feature is absolutely useless to me and I want to be able to turn it off to remove the added clutter. It just showed up on 2 of 3 machines and I want control over turning it OFF. Microsoft needs to ALWAYS allow the user to have an option to turn off a new feature, don't just force it on the user. Not right nor fair. WE NEED THIS FEATURE ABLE TO BE TURNED OFF EASILY BY THE USER . IN FACT IT SHOULD BE INTRODUCED VIA EMAIL LINK AS AN OPTION TO TURN ON, NOT TO HAVE TO FIGHT WITH FINDING OUT HOW TO TURN OFF.THANK YOU.

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