Let us vote for more than 10 ideas
I can understand why votes per idea should be limited, but why only 10 votes across all ideas?
Please give us unlimited votes so that we can vote for all the ideas that we think are worth voting for, not just the first 10 that we see.
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Thanks for the reply Kennith, I have worked out how to "unvote".
The uservoice link explains "Sorry, but we have to limit the number of votes, so that people don’t “vote for everything.” Part of the value we get out of UserVoice is seeing how users prioritize requests, and limiting the number of votes is a way to do that".
I understand that there is an argument to limit the number of votes for OTHER people's ideas (I don't agree with it, but can accept it). But I am frustrated that every new idea we submit uses one of our votes. I have been waiting for many years to be able to submit ideas to improve usability. I have more than 9 ideas to suggest (some large, some small, some have already been suggested), and don't like that I can't suggest them all. And once I have made my 9 suggestions, i am unable to give support to other people's good ideas, to help them be considered for production. Limit us to 9 "thumbs-up" for other ideas, but please don't limit our ability to contribute new ideas please.
It has already been addressed here:
I'm also not sure how you can't unvote. Unvoting seems to work for me. Are you logged in when you're doing it?
The Access UserVoice gives you 20 and they don't even have as many suggestions. As I mention in the link above, I think that at least 30 would be appropriate. It's not "vote for everything", but it's not "pick which of your children to save" either.
Now i'm frustrated with this site. I've supported a few ideas, and posted some ideas. Now I can't post any more, and have so many frustrations with this great program which I would like to share in the hope that they will be addressed. And I've used my 9 votes, and can't contribute any more ideas. I can't even "un-vote" to give me more! And I really do want to help improve Excel, not only for myself, but for other users as well.
PLEASE remove the 9-vote restriction.
With the number of ideas here, a limit of 9 votes to support ideas is just not enough if you want good feedback to improve Excel. Please allow more votes on this site to fully support your feedback.
Dan, could we at least get 30 votes? The number of suggestions is only increasing as this site becomes more known. Right now we can't even vote for 2% of the suggestions.
The increased votes would also give you greater precision in the importance of lower-priority suggestions, rather than just having them sit at 0 - 3 votes due to self-voting. This is important to distinguish "low priority" from "garbage" (e.g. the "I want my money back" posts).
So can we please get more votes? Pretty please with a cherry on top? :)
I will also add my non-vote to this request for more votes! I've been fairly active on this site and there are a dozen or two ideas that I think should be rising above the chaff, but I'm all out of votes.
Yeah, the Amazon star system would be good. Just as long as it's not YouTube's old star system, where you vote doesn't make a dent if there are a lot of them.
It would be nice if they let us rate the difficulty of implementation of and the impact of our suggestions. Then you can distinguish quick fixes for the current Excel, features for the next version, difficult but urgent features for the current version, etc. Then again, the impatient angry businessman could abuse it and put is as low difficulty and high impact.
It's too bad that on this site, the votes left are signed integers. If they were unsigned, you'd have lots of votes left. ;)
Kenneth - Thanks for taking the time to comment.
I think that the voting limit is set by the moderators of this particular Excel UserVoice site. I don't think it was there to start with and so I voted on lots of ideas that I liked. Then a voting limit was imposed and I now have negative 36 votes!
I don't want to unvote for things just so that I can get back more votes. The votes that I've cast so far have been made because I thought something was a good idea - I'm not going to stop thinking something is a good idea just because I'm in a minority.
I suspect that the "I'll vote for everything because I'm nice" effect is quite small.
I think it would be great if people could weight their votes, rather than just changing the number, similar to how reviews on Amazon work. So rather than casting 3 votes, you would give it one vote of 3 stars. This would give an indication of how much people like an idea, and this would help on prioritising things. But I guess this is a UserVoice issue, rather than being specific to Excel UserVoice.
Overall I think it's great that the Excel team are using this site, I just wish I could keep voting for good ideas.
Not sure if this is an Excel UserVoice thing or a UserVoice thing. In any case, I contacted the UserVoice people about it today. No reply yet (obviously).
I think that our number of votes should be 10% of the total number of posts, not like I'm encouraging anyone to post garbage just to get more votes. With a limited number, you still get the "pick your favourite" effect rather than the possible "I'll upvote everything because I'm nice" effect. I also think that self-voting should be forbidden, since it is a given that people will vote for their own suggestions.
You know that something is wrong when Excel UserVoice says that they'll do their best to reply to suggestions that get at least 20 votes, but only 2.5 of the 29 pages meet those criteria. I've read a lot of the suggestions. There are some reactive heat-of-the-moment angry-businessman posts, but I'd say that 80% of all posts are insightful and good.
I also think that the voting system isn't the best in the case of Excel. Some posts are so minor that people would never use up their votes on it (e.g. Ctrl + A posts), but they would be quick to grant and no one would complain. Other posts are about trying to make a difficult or obscure feature (e.g. PivotTables, Name Manager, string parsing) more user-friendly. So currently, since the feature is difficult, not many know about it and so the post doesn't get voted. However, if the suggestion were implemented, then the feature would gain more popularity because now it's easy to use.
Democracy gives people what they want. However, what they want isn't always what's best for them.
Gary, I would vote for your post, but I've already run out of my 10 supporting my 30 posts.